littorio vs bismarck

This is an entirely hypothetical scenario, but if Bismarck was substituted by either Littorio or Vittorio Veneto for Rheinubung, and this operation was conducted with the DS breakout in exactly the same way - Italian ship, Italian crew but under command of a German Fleet Commander, would the Hood have still blown up at the DS battle? USS Washington and its sister, North Carolina, were the first American battleships built since 1921.They displaced thirty-five thousand tons, could make twenty-seven knots, and carried a … Ma quanti diavolo sono i Macchi 326 e 339? _Issoupe 0 points 1 point 2 points 1 day ago * However you are right, you cannot just consider the general thickness of the belt. Richelieu was better in many areas (deck/turret armour, TDS, speed, range) though that does not mean she would have easily defeated BS, which imo would not have been the case, since her advantages wouldn´t be decisive in such an engagement and she`d suffer from dispersion and shell problems. Dati utile sulla produzione di Mirage F.1 e Mirage 2000, Dati utili su Hunter e G.91R (armamenti e upgrade), La suprema bellezza dell'Hunter (Top Gun alla svitzera), Oltre il Magic: gli altri missili francesi, Jaguar: analisi della produzione e disponibilità, Mezzi corazzati UK e speciale CRV-T (Scorpion e cuggini), Il missile Rapier, spada dalle molte punte, I temibili Mosquito, i Tornado degli anni '40, Duri a morire(? The low-trajectory weapon has a greater danger space, so even if the shells are spaced farther apart when they land, they might still have more hits within the danger space. Se si accettano i dati di Naval Weapons, abbiamo circa 6 c.min per i 155,  8 per i 150 (al loro meglio), con la possibilità di lanciare cariche HE da sei cannoni per lato, portando complessivamente a segno 36x2,3 kg (82,8 kg)/min per la nave italiana, contro 48x3,08-3,82 kg (148-183 kg) per quella tedesca. Battleships Bismarck & Littorio (or VV) meet-up. The Twin 457 rainbow gun is ultra-rare and is the strongest gun in the game. Being that the case then we will likely never get a Hood´s blowing at DS. by Karl Heidenreich » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:41 pm, Post Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 5: DALLE FONTI ORIGINALI... Starfighter contro Vulcan! by Karl Heidenreich » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:47 pm, Post Bismarck was faster,. German Fleet Commander with Italian crew... somehow I think Hood would still have the upper hand. Bismarck vs. Yamato (comparison) - YouTub . Summary: A Bismarck-class battleship that trades away Hydroacoustic Search and AA-power for deck mounted torpedoes. (Battleship images scanned from Gibbons, "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships.") Last edited: Mar 12, 2020. I like the Littorio class too, but not sure how good the armor was. The critical advantage is that Bismarck’s guns had much less dispersion and Bismarck had radar for ranging and a good fire control system as judged by comparison with that of contemporary RN battleships. Bismarck was actually lost 8 months before Yamato was commissioned, but this is a hypothetical question, so that's okay. It can't even measure up to Littorio!Well, Bismarck's is even weaker. The result was the first post–Washington Treaty class of genuine fast battleships, the Littorio class. Quest'ultima ha evitato gli effetti di almeno due, e forse tre siluri a centro nave proprio per questa ragione. 10,5 m (Roma: 240,7 ft; 224,5 m (p.p.) Le torri secondarie e terziarie non erano corazzate a sufficienza per sopravvivere ai colpi di grosso calibro (solo il frontale delle torri da 152 italiane poteva forse sopravvivere, ma difficilmente la torre sarebbe rimasta operativa dopo l'impatto). These 15″ weapons, designed and manufactured by the Ansaldo company, were incredibly powerful. The Italians never demanded long radius, so while Littorio is fast, we can't call her very mobile. The rests are ship specific guns - The Quad 356 is for KGV, The Triple 381 is for Littorio, the Quad 380 is for Jean Bart, and the Triple 406 is for Gascogne Muse and Massachusetts. Which one would win against the other in a hypothetical pure Battleships vs Battleship duel ala Hood vs Bismarck. Banned. Plus, able commander doesn't mean able crew. Thread starter Admiral Beez; Start date Aug 1, 2016; Prev. Tanto le corazzature erano troppo spesse per perforarle da distanze pratiche di tiro (diciamo 12-20 km). Bismarck(Tirpitz) vs Richelieu vs Littorio vs King George V. Now that the Tirpitz hype is real I'm wondering why they seem to be so popular and liked compared to the other European state-of-the-art Battleships. The Littorio class were armed with the Cannone da 381mm/50 Ansaldo M134 naval gun. Her firepower was unremarkable; I believe she had the weakest broadside among all the treaty ships. )-2: gli incrociatori italiani e tedeschi, Duri a morire(? 80  mm, -torrione:                                      200-260 mm                                350 mm. Discussion. Summary: A Bismarck-class battleship that trades away Hydroacoustic Search and AA-power for deck mounted torpedoes. Due to an exceptionally high muzzle velocity of almost 2800fps, these guns could fire their 1,951lb shells at ranges exceeding 26 miles (42.25km). The third ship of the Littorio class, ... with the likely exception of Bismarck and Tirpitz. Bismarck didn´t achieve much on her large displacement. by Tiornu » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:16 am, Post The Italian leader Benito Mussolini did not authorize any large naval rearmament until 1933. It's a shame random battles aren't all fought that way. Qualche commento sulle elezioni del 31 maggio. Historical what if discussions, hypothetical operations, battleship vs. battleship engagements, design your own warship, etc. My favorite is Bismarck. Why are all the machines I think are good really lame? As some of you may recall, the first edition of this page featured a three-way race between Bismarck, Yamato and Iowa.I received quite a volume of e-mail from overseas (including some from Germany, surprise, surprise...) debating various points of contention. I don´t believe that Lutjens would ever get the edge even if commanding CVN Nimitz. Nell'insieme, anche qui non c'é molto da scegliere, ma la maggior cadenza di fuoco delle armi tedesche è micidiale. But I'm torn between Bismarck and Littorio class for the close second. In altri termini, è verosimile che i 150 mm tedeschi sarebbero stati più dannosi di quelli da 152 italiani. Mar 12, 2020 #2 Scenario 1 is a win for the Anglo-Americans. 1941 : Vittorio Veneto recieved one torpedo hit and went to full stop after taking in almost 5,000 litres of water. )-3: gli incrociatori inglesi, Duri a morire(? Littorio was a short-legged battleship, built for the closed space of the Mediteranean. Wasn´t it true that the Littorio had problems with a very high dispersion rate with their main guns? Mentre i cannoni tedeschi erano molto più rapidi, ma senza munizioni a.a. (e con un alzo lievemente inferiore rispetto ai 45° dei cannoni italiani)! Background For additional information, see Littorio-class battleship. Hood Print Mar 25, 2019 - The Battle of the Denmark Strait, 24 May 1941. But that's not a bad thing. Dislocamento-Bismarck: 41.676 t, 50.153 t a pieno carico-Littorio: 41.700 t, 45.460 t a pieno carico Corazzatura Littorio Bismarck by RF » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:46 am, Post Due to an exceptionally high muzzle velocity of almost 2800fps, these guns could fire their 1,951lb shells at ranges exceeding 26 miles (42.25km). Karl, I don't think that the German vessels were a lot better than said in this forum. Peraltro, le Littorio avevano quasi il doppio di munizioni per cannone, 210 anziché 108-120 colpi. by Hartmann10 » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 pm, Post Littorio Vittorio Veneto Roma Andrea Doria Caio Duilio Conte Cavour Giulio Cesare KM BBs Bismarck Tirpitz KM BC Scharnhorst Gneisenau VMF BBs Gangut Petropavlovsk Sevastopol Poltava . HMS Warspite said: Yes Battleships could do so, but certainly not the cruisers and destroyers needed to protect them. At the time when both ships were afloat, it is easy to predict a victory for Bismarck. Questo, senza considerare che nelle prove di tiro citate da Colliva, i cannoni da 152/55 avevano eseguito al massimo 2 tiri al minuto per canna. Del resto delle armi, è meglio soprassedere: ad ogni modo, se le distanze fossero cadute molto più del normale, la bordata di 6 pezzi da 90 mm non avrebbe potuto nemmeno lontanamente tenere il confronto con 8 da 105 mm (120 kg vs 60), che avevano sia gittata che cadenza di tiro superiori. Popolazione 2017, ISTAT contro ONU: chi ha ragione? Not realy, since Gibraltar is a serious obsticle between the Italian Navy Realm and the Atlantic, where the Kriegsmarine was deployed. It's the first name that comes up in my mind when I hear "battleship". Team 1 takes it, though Iowa manages to disengage and run once her partners are taken out. Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 2: i Gina, Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 1: i Macchi 326-339, Qualche spunto sulle memorie digitali... e la loro convenienza, Un insetto mordace... GNAT vs Hunter, G.91 Macchi e F-86, Macchi 326K, potenza di fuoco e vulnerabilità, Appunti bellici su Macchi 326, G.91R e F-86. Which of the above is the best european BB? The critical advantage is that Bismarck’s guns had much less dispersion and Bismarck had radar for ranging and a good fire control system as judged by comparison with that of contemporary RN battleships. by Karl Heidenreich » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:02 pm, Post by ostriker » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:33 pm, Post This is an entirely hypothetical scenario, but if Bismarck was substituted by either Littorio or Vittorio Veneto for Rheinubung, and this operation was conducted with the DS breakout in exactly the same way - Italian ship, Italian crew but under command of a German Fleet Commander, would the Hood have still blown up … E allora, meglio usare i proiettili HE, con il triplo (addirittura il quadruplo per le armi tedesche) di carica esplosiva. Some ideas: Bismarck, KGV, Richelieu, North Carolina, Littorio, Nagato? E ovviamente, i telemetri della SDT della Littorio erano vulnerabili pressoché a TUTTE le armi tedesche, a parte forse quelle da 20 mm. It's a real naval legend, that gave the RN a headache, and fought like a lion in the Atlantic. by Lutscha » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:36 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Crea il tuo sito web unico con modelli personalizzabili. At the time when both ships were afloat, it is easy to predict a victory for Bismarck. Quest'ultima, sulle Littorio, è robustissima, ma non è molto estesa in altezza, almeno non quanto quella della P.o.W e della Bismarck. 3. Release History: First Sold September 17th to October 1st, 2015. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. I disagree especially the cruisers and Scharnhorsts didn´t compare very well to their opponents. Quest'ultima ha evitato gli effetti di almeno due, e forse tre siluri a centro nave proprio per questa ragione. Quest'ultima, sulle Littorio, è robustissima, ma non è molto estesa in altezza, almeno non quanto quella della P.o.W e della Bismarck. The Littorio class were armed with the Cannone da 381mm/50 Ansaldo M134 naval gun. Historical Richelieu vs Littorio vs Bismarck. The German surface fleet consisted of mediocre designs which just did not compare well with the best that others had to offer. The third ship of the Littorio class, ... with the likely exception of Bismarck … a) in a battle in the north sea , stormy weather,poor visibility. However, due to its extreme rarity, we won't mention it here. Richelieu vs Littorio in direct confrontation can only meet in the western Mediteranean. The Littorio class, also known as the Vittorio Veneto class,[Note 1] was a class of battleship of the Regia Marina, the Italian navy. )-1: gli incrociatori giapponesi, Duri a morire(? Go. Background For additional information, see Littorio-class battleship. (Falklands 1982). Matapan, 28. The same thought occurred to me Jose, but it's covered in the original set up, by not assuming the operation starts from the same point (the Baltic).  One on one, she's arguably the best tier VIII battleship in the game. HMS Hood and HMS Prince of Wales intercept DKM Bismarck and the heavy cruiser DKM Prinz Eugen in … Low-trajectory guns will always show greater dispersion, but that doesn't necessarily mean less accuracy or fewer hits--in fact, the opposite is true. So, basically, they can carry as much fuel as they need, you just start from a different point (France perhaps?). TL:DR - There was barely a sheet of tissue paper between them. The result was the first post–Washington Treaty class of genuine fast battleships, the Littorio class. (No, I’m not going to make it as simple as that. ↳   The Ironclad & Pre-dreadnought Era (1860-1905), ↳   Movies, Films, Documentaries and Games, Littorio or Vittorio Veneto instead of Bismarck, Re: Littorio or Vittorio Veneto instead of Bismarck. Once he did, two old battleships of the Conte di Cavour class were sent to be modernized in the same year, and Vittorio Veneto and Littorio were laid down in 1934. 4 pensieri di cronaca nera e senso della vita... Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 3: i Tornado. 237,8 m;                  larghezza 32,9 m; 100 o 150 mm(?) Historical Richelieu vs Littorio vs Bismarck by boneghazi in WorldOfWarships. A questo aggiungiamo che raramente i cannoni tedeschi usavano le munizioni AP. by Lutscha » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:49 pm, Post Don't forget that Rommel got more out of Italian troops than any of the Italian commanders. Post Mentre le SDT tedesche erano invulnerabili a tutte le armi sotto il 381 mm. In May 1935, the Italian Naval Ministry began … Yamato vs. Iowa is pretty even, but Richelieu and KGV vs. Vittorio Veneto and Bismarck is a mismatch in favor of the former, as the two Axis ships have serious holes in their armor protection and the VV has probably the worst fire control setup of the lot. These 15″ weapons, designed and manufactured by the Ansaldo company, were incredibly powerful. Sold December 11th to 14th, 2015. Bismarck's greatest asset may have been her mobility: good speed, good range, good seaeeping. British postwar tests showed that German heavy guns had more dispersion than British guns. I can't believe it got around an 8! Bismarck(Tirpitz) vs Richelieu vs Littorio vs King George V. Now that the Tirpitz hype is real I'm wondering why they seem to be so popular and liked compared to the other European state-of-the-art Battleships. It's a shame random battles aren't all fought that way. Le armi da 90 mm erano meglio protette di quelle da 105, ma pur sempre non abbastanza anche contro i 150-152 mm. Against Littorio, S1 = 0.7, S2 = 2.8, C1h = 660, C2xg = 900, B1h = 3.8, B2g = 2.25, α1 = 65.1, α2 = 65.1 + 1 = 6.1 The result is Vg ≈ 579m/s Since Bismarck's outer plate is quite thick, while Littorio's quite thin, I believe the change in angle of obliquity would be more significant on Bismarck than Littorio.  One on one, she's arguably the best tier VIII battleship in the game. -Littorio: lunghezza 237,8 m; larghezza 32,9 m; pescaggio medio p.c. This is in the context of 1 on 1 battleship vs battleship: which ship would you want to be on? I telemetri veri e proprio non erano totalmente inclusi nella struttura, a differenza di quelli italiani, ma questo non era un problema eccessivo perché era molto difficile colpirne le 'canne'; in compenso, proprio per questo c'era il peso sufficiente per corazzare la SDT vera e propria! by iankw » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:17 pm, Post Bismarck is in my opinion the quintessence of a battleship. Bismarck vs. Aug 2, 2016 #21 Redbeard. Don´t you think so? E' tutto un controsenso, se si considera che i proiettili a.a. italiani avevano poca possibilità di essere efficaci, senza radar di tiro e sopratutto, con una cadenza di tiro che avrebbe dovuto essere particolarmente elevata, mentre in realtà era del tutto marginale stando a Colliva, e nient'affatto ottima nemmeno per Naval weapons. )-4: gli incrociatori americani. You are confusing her with her Atlantic-built contemporaries, which had large range, and were susceptible to being "mission killed" via battle damage (see Bismarck). 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I think that the Italian ship would have some severe problems with the stability in the Atlantic Sea, but overall, I think that she could have been done a very good job with good and well trained crewmembers. by RF » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:04 am, Post The Italian leader Benito Mussolini did not authorize any large naval rearmament until 1933. by XazaX » Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:12 am, Post by José M. Rico » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:36 pm, Post Once he did, two old battleships of the Conte di Cavour class were sent to be modernized in the same year, and Vittorio Veneto and Littorio were laid down in 1934. Moderator. Richeliu vs Bismarck vs KGV vs Vittorio Veneto. Littorio or Vittorio Veneto instead of Bismarck. by Karl Heidenreich » Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:21 am, Post Besides this, the Littorio class was designed for Mediterranean service with a much shorter operational radius, while Bismarck and other German warships of the period were designed for long range operations in the Atlantic. Sold December 11th to 14th, 2015. As some of you may recall, the first edition of this page featured a three-way race between Bismarck, Yamato and Iowa.I received quite a volume of e-mail from overseas (including some from Germany, surprise, surprise...) debating various points of contention. (Battleship images scanned from Gibbons, "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships.") Built between 1934 and 1942, they were the most modern battleships used by Italy during World War … ''Give me a Ping and one Ping only'' - Sean Connery. Release History: First Sold September 17th to October 1st, 2015. 1 CV12Hornet. by Brad Fischer » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:59 am, Post The class was composed of four ships—Littorio, Vittorio Veneto, Roma, and Impero—but only the first three ships of the class were completed. Warships, naval battles, technology, weapons, navies of all eras, modeling, etc. In this forum think are good really lame: Yes Battleships could so... 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